PDF Recruitment and discussion! (B A D - B O Y E S)

[Fairemont]

Sanctioned means that someone was trained by the schola psykana. An un-sanctioned psyker is just a psyker that was not officially trained by the Imperium and would be considered a rogue and dangerous. Using their powers wouldn't necessarily have to bring more danger to them from the warp, but would undoubtedly bring danger to them from their peers, particularly Imperium loyalists! They would BLAM the psyker on the spot if they found out.

In regards to Kroot and other things, most psykers have their own methods of training and shielding from the warp. To my knowledge, Kroot are not inherently psykers, but can become such by consuming other psykers. Therefore, kroot that fight against the Eldar a lot will tend to have psykers among them. How they maintain stability and don't go bonkers? Good question. The greater good, perhaps?

More than likely they are insignificant enough that it doesn't matter? That or perhaps psyker kroot get some serious problems.

[Zink]

[Commissar Cat]

[Fairemont]

[Zink]

Oh, Kroot psykers - I know that one.

They're really restricted to a single instance with an encounter made by the Silver Skulls chapter, who fought and killed a good bit of them, before simply requesting the planet be exterminated. The apex of their powers was simply creating illusions of themselves that managed to be corporeal to some extent, which is, compared to some other means psykers have, a relatively mundane action that doesn't disturb the warp as much.

Only one instance of them in the lore, too, and it was fairly under-explained - doesn't exactly disqualify them, but it's one of those things that they never fleshed out or explained. Not that the above answers aren't credible, either, but Kroot DNA works by constant exposure over generations to the same element to guide evolution - the traits any Kroot with Eldar DNA had would degrade and simply fade away after a few generations, and it's very hard to pin Eldar down, let alone kill them and acquire the body. They were, most likely, a one-off branch that may or may not occur again, and they probably didn't exist long enough to attract any unwanted attention from daemons.

[Commissar Cat]

Kroot Shamans/Shapers can have a psy rating, and since the days of BFG, Kroot are on record as having warp travel (but hide it from the T'au because ha... Such bitterness)...

So my thought was they have fundamental warp and psyker understanding, but must reign it in another, tribal way.
If how I read Nev's character sheet was correct, that kind of shamanic/cultural approach could be applied. Within reason.

For the time and scope that this setting will exist, I really don't think we have to worry quite so much...
In nine months of forum existence, about a month of time has passed in games. And that's only because Richard stated how much time had passed.

(We can please stop explaining to me how Kroot genealogy works. It wasn't what I was asking. ._.)

[Zink]

[Commissar Cat]

I was on the third rephrase of "Kroot have psykers, how do kroot avoid daemons? Can we apply this to an untrained human psyker with a tribal BG?" And had three independent people explain genetics, so I was just feeling I was magnificently failing to communicate. .-.

I think the simplest solution could be, that if Nev's psyker is not benefiting from the "perks" of being psychic, then the penalties would be proportionate? How RP sheets are typically handled?
i.e People may feel a little uneasy around him, but not know why, he has to be very guarded, and pick his allies with care. As a player, he's demonstrated enough depth in his writing to pull this off.

However I can't speak for setting a precedent for character types on the board itself.
This is only how I would be happy to see if handled in relation to what I'm personally doing. I defer to the spirit of the forum which was "You can make it, but don't expect people to want to engage with it." in this case I'm happy for Nev to play in threads I curate.

[Nevaraon]

Thanks for all the feedback guys. Especially you Zink and Cat. I knew going into this, he'd be a tough character to sell.

I believe that a rogue psyker absolutely could achieve a mental discipline all on his own that was strong enough to resist demonic incursions. Plus I don't see Biomancy powers to be as big of a draw of power from the warp due to their mostly internal focus. Unlike say a pyromancer or a telekine.

[Fairemont]

Considering there are a lot of dead people around, some of which are psykers, its not impossible that a rogue/unsanctioned psyker could have looted a psyfocus or something off of a body somewhere. I'm sure that there were several sanctioned psykers around that are probably less around than they were before. At least, it seems like it'd be a reasonable assumption.

[Guardsman Samantha Hawke]

It occurs to me that Rahmah and Nagru would instantly recognize each other for what they are. Rahmah would probably be willing to give Nagru some instruction in keeping his powers in check and resisting warp entities. She's not at all what you'd call magnanimous, but there's a self-preservation aspect involved.

[Nevaraon]

[Zink]

That'd work, yeah. My main issue all along was that, from my experience, people make psykers without taking into account what its like to be a psyker - adding it in because it's 'cool'. However, you seem to have a pretty solid grasp on what the risks are and how to handle it, so you've got nothing but my support from here on out.


I'll try to think of a PDF person, but I'm still quite out of it in terms of roleplay. My posts are horrendous ;_;

[Drocol Ritter von Krieg]

Hey Zink.

Trial and Error.

[Aishachan]

I dunno how other races really deal with it, but it seems like every race has some psyonics. Even the Tau have like the Nicassar. So there's got to be something, right??

If there is it should definitely get looked into, since- if I'm remembering right- having untrained psykers can invite things like the enslavers and psychneuein. So while anyone can be one, it's a pretty serious deal to be an untrained psyker and use powers, and can see why Holt would escalate that threat.

Let me know if that's wrong. : )

[Zink]

Enslavers are the literal worst case scenario you can get out of psykers, and it's honestly more likely than not that gms and mods would stop such damaging events from happening in the first place, or just retconning a thread all together if necessary. The only real risk is that unsanctioned psykers don't know what's safe or acceptable levels to dip into the warp during their powers, and they might draw too much or do it too long, and ultimately attract attention from warp predators.

Nev's character has been 'trained', if you could call it that, to simply avoid using his powers, or something of the sort. Unless he starts doing some real serious warp-magic skullduggery, everything should be relatively fine.

[Techpriest Dave]

Enslavers maybe. Psychneuein no, they're super extinct. They were isolated to entirely to prospero. And we all know what happened to prospero.

[Zink]

There's actually two known strains of Psychneuein, with Maran Psychneuein being the surviving of the two, with prosperan strain being extinct.

Either way, we digress. Really bad stuff will happen if an untrained psyker uses his powers as liberally as a battle psyker does, etc etc.

[Techpriest Dave]

Oh. I just assumed the wolves just destroyed everything on both worlds.

[blinddeadmcjones]