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Postby Johannes Wyss von Krieg » Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:12 pm

[[OOC: I understand the Scene is still active, if it's not then consider the following interaction as timeskipped and scene restarted.]]

In the corner, the not-so-rare-resident-anymore reorganised his notes and readjusted the lamp he requested specifically for this occasion. Usually the conversation of the type he was about to engage in should be reserved for behind closed doors in the Martial Spire of the Cathedral, but such environment was not one to actually inspire true direct thoughts conveyed by the more relaxed atmosphere of the Officer Lounge, perhaps it was the constant hovering of Senior Commissar Holt making sure everyone behaves and hides behind decorum and such niceties -while useful, in this case are detrimental.

#9453/1-101 glanced over towards the rest of the club's patrons, his unlit pipe lodged into his mouth. Soon, the work may begin.

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Postby Tabitha Maru » Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:09 pm

If there was one thing that Eckhardt had not expected when he got up that morning it was the message inviting him to a conversation at the officer club. Not so much the discussion or the locale itself, he was a frequent visitor and he liked to think he was at least a good colleague to some of his peers, but rather from whom the invitation had been sent. He had no real relationship with captain Wyss, so he wasn't too clear why the man had chosen to turn to him.
But far be it from him to refuse a polite invitation, especially from a captain. So as soon as duties permitted it he had made his way to the officers' club, pondering what that captain had in mind.

Stepping inside he glanced around. It was a quite calm day, not much going on. A few familiar faces at the usual tables. The bartender caught his eye and wordlessly sought confirmation if the lieutenant wanted "the usual", Eckhardt gestured for the man to hold off a bit. He didn't want to presume it was a casual meeting even if the choice of location suggested as much.

He stepped up to the captain's table and placed his feet evenly spaced from one another, stood with a straight back and with his arms straight.

"Captain, you wished to see me?"
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Postby Tabitha Maru » Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:29 am

The lieutenant glanced at the captain. Was that a play on words? Certainly not something you'd expect from your average krieger, but then from what Eckhardt had heard about Wyss and his lot was anything but average. Still the whole thing came across as slightly awkward, almost as if the captain had read about normal human interaction and was checking the boxes off a list. Make a joke to make them lower their guard, check. Reassure them this isn't serious. Check. Offer to make themselves comfortable. Check. Still... the man was making an effort and the cadian wasn't above returning the courtesy. He gestured to the bartender that it was time and then sat down opposite to the captain, his hands folded on the table in front of him.

"Thank you, captain. I believe you wrote that you wished to discuss doctrine?"
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Postby Johannes Wyss von Krieg » Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:22 am

The table, which Eckhardt could see in better detail now that he was closer, carried several books regarding military theory and practical applications by various authors as well as a stack of blank papers and a few writing materials with a blank brown folder atop it all.

The Lieutenant still reffered to him in a formal manner, perhaps it was the most relaxed state he had.
"Indeed, are you familiar with sniper unit #8-316? More likely you remember the issued name 'Erika Hass'. What are your thoughts of it?" He said while reaching for the folder and flicking through it.

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Postby Tabitha Maru » Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:39 pm

Eckhardt's eye briefly wandered across the stack of books on the table. Some works he was familiar with and some he was not. It seemed a little impractical to haul all these books here to the officer's club, so either the captain intended to spend some time planning something here in a relatively comfortable environment... or he wanted to maintain the image of someone erudite.

"I remember her, yes. She performed rather well last time I worked with her, good head on her shoulder. Surprisingly sociable for a member of the Death Korp as I recall"

The glass with the golden liquid was placed in front of him and he briefly inclined his head to the bartender to indicate his gratitude.

"I'm sure you have it in here folder there, but in the practice session I ran she showed rather good promise. She knew how to delegate and lead, achieved her objectives adequately, showed initiative and creativity. A practice session does of course not compare to the real deal, but barring a complete meltdown under stress I think it should transfer well. You may have excellent material for a sergeant right there and these qualities should, in my opinion, be cultivated."
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Postby Johannes Wyss von Krieg » Fri Jun 14, 2019 8:32 pm

#1-101 gently nodded along as Eckhardt made his remarks until he pointed out at the folder open in front of him. The Hauptmann stopped flipping through the pages (He stopped on 'Terrain Utilisation') and raised his eyes up to the Lieutenant in a rather surprised expression, Unit #8-316 was a scout as well as a sniper, small unit tactics proficiency were part of every member of the 945th 'Curriculum' but to receive praise of such magnitude was far from expected. Unfortunately the Unit is still too unstable to be permanently entrusted with company manpower, it would also distract her from her current investigations into her peculiar condition.

"Noted." He replied then flicked over to the page titled 'Role, Doctrine-driven-Organisation'
"In truth, Unit 8-316 itself has little to do with the meeting: The qualities cultivated in the field units include full utilisation of information given by Company Command, it can be Doctrine both Strategic and Tactical, non-Krieg behavioural analysis and even Grand Strategic situations and goals, the Field Units are expected to use those ideas with the general aim of reaching the overall objectives as well as spreading them to the rest of Imperial Guard Forces.

"Which brings us here, this Information passed to Field Units is a result of Company Officer Staff meetings, similar to the one we are about to have right now. We are not at full attendance but without fresh output from outside, creativity can go only so far until diminishing returns and, simply put, we are short on time."

He hunched forward and lowered his voice only for the two of them to be heard, glancing to the sides to spot eavesdroppers and resting
"The 9453rd Company Manpower is larger than specified in the base roster, it is also about to experience severe attrition to the point where current structure is no longer viable therefore the need to reorganise accordingly to Doctrine and Naris Front Operations, Holt Knows. We are in the process of gathering data on other formations' organisations and methods of war, you represent the Cadians, arguably the best candidate for partial adaptation."

The Krieger straightened back and reached for the Pipe he put on the table before then fidgeted with its bowl from which smoke slowly began to rise.
"If you have any remarks or comments before we proceed, voice them now." He placed the pipe's tip into his mouth.

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Postby Tabitha Maru » Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:53 am

Eckhardt took a sip from the glass as the captain began discussing the reasons for this meeting, raising his eyebrows briefly as the krieger mentioned that his force was stronger than it appeared in official documents but were about to suffer some extreme attrition. Curious. Even if Holt knew these seemed like odd admissions and that they were about to suffer attrition sounded quite concerning. When the captain glanced around, the lieutenant resisted the urge to follow his gaze. It was a strange place to have a conversation like this, so all the better to be subtle about it. Treat it like just another casual theoretical conversation.

"I'm curious, why do you turn to me and not captain Perray or major Keegan about it? It would seem they have more experience in the subject."
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Postby Johannes Wyss von Krieg » Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:40 pm

#1-101 let a puff of smoke from his nostrils like a frustrated grox and slowly blinked.
"Penal Legionnaire Doctrine involves permitted field aquisition of supplies and equipment, often from other Imperial Units in complete contempt of the Logistics chain, we don't posses such permission or disregard for Krugermann's mental health. Keegan's methods are adequate for engaging hostiles but insufficient treatment of non combatants pushes neutrals into Xenos' lies, arguably the real deciding factor in winning this front. In addition to that, Keegan is untrustworthy: The 2nd Sons recieve their equipment directly from the Rogue Trader and never share, meaning that if the Major isn't fully subservient to non Militarum Interests then at the very least their cooperation is long past good taste, there is an office in the Base Intelligence Department responsible for ensuring the information delivered to our voidborne ally is properly vetted for fallacies, I wouldn't dare to impede their work. As for Captain Perray, I wouldn't distract her from current or... future Duties." In the last remark the captain's expression became grim and serious for the same duration as the wink his eye gave before softerning back.
"Anything else you need to know?"

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Postby Tabitha Maru » Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:20 am

That was certainly a explanation, but Eckhardt wasn't certain he came out of it with less questions than when he had asked for the reason. So... the captain didn't trust Keegan, a sentiment he shared with most of the cadians. Still, would that really disqualify him from a discussion on how to organize the force? It sounded like the captain didn't want to let the major know any details if he could avoid it. As for his reasons not to take this with Perray... what the warp was that supposed to mean? But the lieutenant suspected he wouldn't get an answer to that. He grabbed his glass and took another sip.

"No captain, please go ahead"
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Postby Johannes Wyss von Krieg » Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:23 pm

#1-101 gave a nod of appriciation before he began writhing several titles and subtitles in the folder.
"We'll start from the basics: Form a heirarchy of formations and formation types to establish a mutually understood foundation then assign more specialised roles into them. Infantry: Basic Force type. Squad: Basic Formation type. What type of soldiers are there? How many are there? Who leads it? How does it fight on its own level? It is pedantic but neccessary."
His now unsupported pipe was held in his lightly clenched teeth.

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Postby Tabitha Maru » Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:01 pm

Eckhardt took out a pen from his pocket and began sketching on a nearby napkin, laying out a basic outline for the captain. Jotting down whatever he considered mandatory for any force. Still keeping it rather light on detail.

"What will this hypothetical force of yours be doing, sir? What's the overarching goals and objectives to keep in mind? Are we talking Naris here, with our current situation and challenges or are we talking a fortress world like Cadia and I could have whatever I wish?"
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Postby Tabitha Maru » Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:15 am

The sketches on the napkins had been nothing more than a rough outline, later to be redrawn properly on some decent paper. But when the captain handed the paper over Eckhardt didn't object and switched over without a dropping a beat. Just the basics for now, things every force needed. He leaned back for a moment when the captain explained the perimeters for him and frowned thoughtfully. That seemed to be a backwards way of approaching thing to him. Granted, it was what often ended up happening: Guard regiments ending up on fronts with too little support and having to force to learn to fight outside their element.

"Wouldn't it be better to adapt the organisation to existing perimeters from the get go? If one plans to have a large compliment of light infantry to be supported by mechanized units only to find there's no transportation then the whole thing falls apart after all. If we plan appropriately then we'll have to compromise and adapt less than otherwise."

He leaned forward again and grasped his pen, continuing his outline. Okay, thus far most important battlefields of Naris had either been urban landscapes or rugged terrain. This meant that units often fought in small groups, somewhat isolated from allies. That suggested to him that keeping the decision-making close to the fighting was the best approach. Being picked off by snipers and traps was likely, so some fluidity in the command chain was necessary as well. It was the kind of a force where one as a officer would have to extend a great deal of trust to the soldier's and that they'll exercise proper judgement in their actions.

If the decision making was done on the ground close to the action, then the rest of the force needed to be geared to facilitating that. Each squad needed a support weapon of some kind, coupled with something heavier on platoon level. Specialist skills too, such as vox officers and sappers needed to be available on a platoon level. Having sketched up just the first platoon in a rough manner, with some of his thoughts surrounding it in the margins, he turned the paper around and pushed it towards the captain. Intending to gauge his preliminary reaction before continuing on.

"What do you think about this, sir?"
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Postby Johannes Wyss von Krieg » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:48 am

The Hauptmann said nothing over Eckhardt's remark, instead allowed him to continue his work in silence.
True it would be better to plan directly to the Naris Front but it does not take into account what forces and recources the Company will have, after the upcoming slaughter and on later.

"It is a Deployment Order." #1-101 concluded after a short analysis of the drawing "Specialist or Heavy Forces may not be available at the moment or at all. If a Platoon loses its organic sappers for example, it will not be able to draw them from others. Similarly, a heavy weapon may slow down the platoon in a situation demanding haste."

A moment of immobility indicating thought later and he turned his head over the neat stack of books and pulled one manuscript out, 'Notes on Militarum Detachments -by Leon Glostoi' was the title if Eckhard recognised it, it was a book full of overly specific examples made by one possessing the field experience but not the literary proficiency to explain abstract ideas making it too long and dry to be taken seriously in the wider circles of Imperial Military Practitioners, much to the Imperium's detriment.

He reached a previously marked page, some words circled with many other, far less important ones in between.
"Would it be better to concentrate the more specialised units such as anything Heavy or Special Weapons related into a seperate Platoon with the resources and knowladge to maintain them, from which they would be detached upon requirement, thus increasing flexibility of deployed troops?"

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Postby Tabitha Maru » Thu Jun 27, 2019 3:15 am

Eckhardt said nothing when the captain brought out the brick that was Leon Glostoi's work, the lieutenant had read it... though it had seemed more of a chore than a rewarding experience. It had been full of valuable accounts and insights, but the cadian couldn't help but to think that the author couldn't make his text engaging if his life depended on it. He had read reports with more life in them.

Taking a sip from his glass the lieutenant pondered the captains words for a moment.
"I'd say it depends. It allows you to concentrate them more effectively and as such makes them a more flexible strategical asset and makes them less susceptible to losses. They'll themselves ensure that any replacement learns the necessary skills quickly through diffusion. However, it does mean it'll harder to deploy them to where needed in the moment, losing out on some tactical application. As I recall, mister Glostoi favoured the concentration of assets, but admitted in a few cases where that approach meant he lost out on some opportunities.

The line of thought I was going with here was a decentralizing decisions and thus giving control of certain assets to junior officers, making the time between when an asset is needed and when it can be deployed short. In my mind it would suit the current theater better, with the rapidly changing urban and forested enviroments. Though I'll admit that it's less well suited for larger engagements and tend to be rather wasteful in regards to ammunition and other consumable resources.
Of course... it also comes with the assumption that the soldiers are well trained and disciplined. If not, then concentrating the assets is definitely the better option. "
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Postby Johannes Wyss von Krieg » Thu Jun 27, 2019 12:32 pm

1-101 acknowladged Eckhardt's words with a nod, then closed the tome and returned it to the stack, its purpose spent.

The Krieger wrote down both arguments in all their aspects inside his dossier with clear and succinct wording. Then moved on to the next subject.

"Force Multipliers." He announced. "It is a common practice in Imperial Military Formations to group its most elite members into the same subformation often the 1st by number, used for acheiving breakthoughs or furfilling specialised missions, though some notable exceptions such as Colonel Hoth exist." he pulled out said officer's accounts describing how he turned his recon regiment into an all-purpose unit with each guardsman possessing the same flexible tactical approach which allowed platoons to be cycled in and out between battalions thus increasing the regiment's endurance and general versatility in exchange for specialised roles "It connects with the former subject but more specific in regards to deployment, what are your thoughts of it and how they are to be used."

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Postby Tabitha Maru » Wed Jul 03, 2019 6:40 am

As the captain talked the lieutenant took out a small locket from his pockets, opened it and retrieved a lho-stub from it. Listening intently to what the superior officer was saying as he did so. He trimmed the end of it and then placed it between his lips and took out a small set of matches. Taking one for himself, striking it and then lighting his stub.

"It is tradition. What's important is what the officers commanding and the soldiers making it up think. If they see it as an asset and a badge of pride to aspire to, then it's a good thing. Whereas if it becomes a crutch or a exclusive club it is detrimental. Personally I see the main asset of such formations is that they're closely knit and well aware of each others strengths and abilities. They're efficient and a known quantity.

They're best used where you need reliability most of all. Either to shore up a weak point until you can get reinforcements there or to support greener units as their reserves. However, like I mentioned, it's easy to come to rely on them as a crutch and being too reliant on them, ending up with them spent and depleted when you need them. "
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Postby Johannes Wyss von Krieg » Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:31 am

That too he wrote down.

"Staffs of Large scale divisional formations and higher often include an officer specialised in compiling and sharing known intellignce as well as planning missions for its creation. What method of operation does such officer work by and what type would be a suitable candidate?"

#1-101 took a whiff off the pipe and released a soft cloud from his nostrills, waiting for Eckhardt's reply.

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Postby Tabitha Maru » Thu Jul 04, 2019 7:31 am

"I'm not the right person to answer that question, I've been a line officer all my career and I can't really tell you the best way for staff officers to work beyond what the textbooks say. Like all officers I try to keep an eye out for any information that intelligence requires or would find useful. So given the need I'd delegate it to someone I can trust to bring me something useful"

He reclined his chair for a brief moment took a few puffs from his lho-stub, waiting for the captain to ask his next question. Instead the captain gestured for him to continue along that line of thought. He leaned forward once more, rubbing his hands together and then began discussing.

"Right... Like I said, captain, there's not much here that you won't find in textbooks. Basically, what I want intelligence to provide me is an indication of what I need to prepare my men for. If I know the enemy brings up armour I can both prepare my men that they'll see it, and also make sure that they have the weapons they need to defeat it. Given a little luck, we might even be able to do some training to brush up on our skills.

Naturally, this is merely the opinion of an infantry lieutenant. I fully understand and expect that the requirements change the higher up the chain you go and that I'm lowest in the priority order in regards to intelligence's time."
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